----< Grabbey National chairman investigated by FSA? >---
A Grabbey National shareholder has complained to the FSA (and,
apparently, the DTI) alleging that Grabbey National chairman Lord
Christopher Tugendhat misled shareholders at Grabbey's April
Annual General Meeting.
----< Nationwide and Grabbey use Statutory Demands >---------
As briefly and simply as we can explain it: both Abbey National
and Nationwide have started threatening - and using - Statutory
Demands to bludgeon repossessees to pay shortfall demands.
Carol Riley's National Association of Mortgage Victims, working with Mary Ward Legal Centre's Ahmad Butt, has done a great job of having two of Nationwide's thrown out of court. We don't yet know if anyone has beaten off any of Grabbey National's.
Here's how they work - and how to beat them.
Grabbey or Nationwide send a letter demanding that you pay the unproven debt within 21 days. This is the statutory demand. Somewhere in the wording will be a threat to make you bankrupt or insolvent if you don't pay up within those 21 days.
You have 18 days from the date of the letter to get to court and file an application for set aside. You'll need to go to the court to get the two forms you need to do this. According to one advisor, the forms are not very user-friendly so you may want to take them down to your local Citizens Advice Bureau for help filling them out.
Once you've filled them out you must hand them back in at the court, where you will also have to swear an affidavit. This is a lot less scary than it sounds. It's where you say why you want the Demand set aside. Your reason is that the lender will not prove the debt and that you think the MIG was missold so you want the lender to justify it or go through Civil Procedure Rules or a court hearing.
If you've been following the Home Repossession Page's suggestions you'll already have a ream of letters from the lender, which evade the issue of giving you the proof, you want. If you haven't been following the Home Repossession Page's suggestions, here's a good reason why you should.
Our main source says:
"The proper use of such demands is where the court is used to instigate the distribution of a debtor's assets in obvious cases of undisputed, proven debt. Make the affidavit part of your application for set aside VERY clear; it has been known for judges to refuse set aside even when it is obvious that the demand was an inappropriate action."
If you don't apply to have the demand set aside, the lender will likely go to court and ask to have you made bankrupt. This should involve a hearing and you should be notified of it and have a chance to put your case against it. But your chances are a lot better if you get the original Statutory Demand set aside.
And if all this sounds like a nightmare... yup!
That's why Grabbey National and Nationwide do it.
----< Curtis solicitors and Statutory Demands >---------
Our source reports a particularly nasty use of Statutory Demands
by Curtis solicitors of Devon."After three letters, within ten days of the third, if their claim
is not disputed and just ignored, Curtis may serve a statutory
insolvency demand upon you (SID). If you haven't made your
position clear to them, they will 'twist' the law and use a SID to
make you bankrupt - sounds unbelievable but true! SIDs are
inappropriate where no money judgement orders are issued and/or
claims are disputed but if you just keep quiet it will be Curtis'
hope that these facts are overlooked by a judge reading their SID,
especially when you've been shown to be uncooperative by not
communicating - you'll be assumed to be in the wrong. It's crazy
but all of a sudden the onus of proof goes to you, and will
probably involve using a solicitor - not the end of the
world but still costs time, hassle and money.
IT MAY BE WISE TO ACT VERY QUICKLY [if Curtis are pursuing you]. If you chose to do so, send your correspondence by recorded delivery it needn't say anymore than is advised on the home-repo website but make it very clear that you are treating the situation seriously but require proof of the claim before you can proceed.
See 'Stat Insolvency Demand, Royal & Sun Al MIG - Curtis Solicitors' question of THRP's Q&A section to see how they operate."
That would be the post at:
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=004ynQ
----< Nothing left to lose? >-----------------------------------
Ahmad Butt of the Mary Ward Legal Centre is looking for people who
have lost their attempt to defend a repossession shortfall in
court. We've got to say we only know of two who have but if there
are others out there, here's what he said:
"I would be interested contacting/discussing with people who may have recently lost county court cases and have an argument or tried to argue on the limitation point ie 6/12 and who might be thinking of bankruptcy but if given the opportunity might want to take the matter on to the Court of Appeal."
Ahmad can be contacted at:
ahmadbutt@marywardlegal.org.uk
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